Muscatine

Herman....I couldn't agree with you more.  What our friend apparently fails to understand is that most behaviors are instilled in children before the age of 4.  All one has to do to comprehend this is pay a visit to one of our Kindergarten "roundups".  Parents bring them in to visit.....this occured in Muscatine a week or two ago.  I would invite him to visit any one of our elementary schools during this process to see the number of ill-mannered, impolite and unprepared 5 and 6 year olds that are entering our system, along with their ineffective and ill-mannered parents.  I would also invite him to spend a week with one of our elementary principals or teachers, to get an idea of how parents react to disciplinary actions.  Those who threaten lawsuits while jumping up and down screaming "It's the school's fault" are more common than ever.  I'd also invite him to add up the numbers on the amount of money, time, resources, and manpower devoted to "special education" and those with low ability or lack of motivation, all in the name of "fairness".  These unfunded mandates get shoved down the throats of our schools, proving yet again how the government can screw up anything it gets involved in.  These mandates constantly carry us away from the point of motivating our best and brightest. 

 However, I also believe that the numbers of good, motivated, and achieving kids still far outnumbers the ones at the other end of the spectrum.  Unfortunately, the teachers and administrators here and elsewhere will continue to have to nod and smile politely at know-nothing, ineffective parents like our friend while they go about the business of trying to teach their subject matter along with all that those same parents have negelected. 

Choosen,

You need a reading class. No where do the previous posters suggest that the schools are to blame.  There is comment about incidents at school but the poster did NOT blame the schools for the actions of the kids. YOU brought the issue of schools being to blame. If there is such a post, I guess it is super secret and I cant access it because I dont have the code. 

Once again Choosen chooses not to read what is posted and chooses to be dumb. It is no longer funny or cute. You really do have a problem with reading comprehension.

The DHS number is in the phone book. Why is it impropper for them to give it to kids? Is it too super secret?

 I said long ago I was done with you.......I should have listened to myself then.

Herman 

Herman....he needs more that just a reading class.

 Teachers are handing out DHS numbers to students?  When? Where?  Is this first or second-hand information, or merely another rumor?  Does he understand that teachers are "mandatory reporters", and can be prosecuted for failing to report suspected abuse.  Does he know that all teachers are required by law to attend Child Abuse training sessions during inservice every three years, or risk losing their license?  Does he acknowledge that abuse is a real and terrible problem in our district, or does he prefer that teachers ignore and dismiss the problem?  I daresay that if that were the case, he'd be the first in line crying that it was the school's fault yet again for failing to take action. 

You're right, Herman.  It's tough dealing with such an irrational line of thought. 

Herman - Man relax will ya........... Gee no one dying over our post here. We're talking opinions. I read the post as talking about kids in school today. If that's in error, God forbid..... Let's whine a little more.

My point is when 1)"a kid had 2 boys hold him down, while a 3rd kicked his ribs in (put him in the hospital)" a school system has failed to protect our children. When 2)"kids don't behave now a days is they know they won't get their asses beat". Who tells them that? Yes, you guess it, the Schools.  Both are quotes from other post that you clearly see relate to my opinion. See how conversation works. State an opinion, discuss it, and if you're lucky you find common ground.

Nigel, wanna bet the lawyers agree with me? The beating of this poor child has school neglect all over it.