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No!! You can't.....

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Gd' evening Big B.

Well then, that didn't take too long, just so worn down after those treatments though. But anyhow.

I'd have to concede there are strong points within, the has taken place since re-establishment of better relations with England after the War Of 1812 that has better established wars out of a declarations perspective. Though Viet Nam and Korea were hardly indisputable as aggression based, (against our allies and communist posturing) declarations. Not specifically like Japan, but that was coming down the "Pike" sooner or later anyway. But I'd guess that Mexicans and Iraqis might disagree. I did forget to mention Afghanistan earlier too, giving a pass for aggressions against us. We cannot excuse the manner in which we trooped through Iraq in spit of the terrorist aggressions we suffered as well as much of the rest of the world, which still failed to comply our with constitutional stance. That's why it's so difficult to support the invasion of Iraq, that places us in the aggressor stance at least there. Had Pres. Bush trumped Bin Laden in Afghanistan? Well that's again, "A horse of a different color"

But all  in all Big B., I'd still have to tip the scales in favor of republican control throughout our war history. (Not all bad)Too much interventionism has clouded that ALL IMPORTANT document's intent. BUT we are a warring nation at heart ,since we "Are Our Mother's Child" Great Britain. This too is one of those arguments or debates that will always fall into individual perspective. No winners here really. I think personally, we must return to our non-interventionists roots and try to close our loopholes that allow(supposedly) our leaders to declare ANY fruitless wars, outside of defense.

Cripes it's chili in here this evening.

God Bless.

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Oh fudge,

I have a boatload of economic drivel to pass along, but with our regional perspectives, we will likely always disagree on one aspect or more. But if you read anything of my mind-set you know I'll still put it out there. So. In a word? Nope. Our government is too tied up these days in economic globalism, via corporate self-sustenance and industrialized militarism, for things to change as we need them too right now, it would take a direct and deliberate take over of virtually every element of banking, commodities trade, international trade, housing, and industry to upright the apple cart.

That would become the most blatant leap into Socialism we have ever imagined and frankly, this government isn't ready to take on all these tasks. Neither are we, Americans. But I do agree with Paul Krugman, he's a Princeton University professor of Economics and New York Times Columnist, who won a Nobel Prize for his relentless efforts to show how to normalize and reintroduce those better days of economics after the Depression, up to the late eighties. When a new era of deregulation took root. He absolutely has the right approach to begin righting the out of control train we are riding in. He says that(and I can't agree more) we must first slam the doors on corporate greed and lobying power(Ross Perot style)and seal the leaks within our trade agreements that have been encouraging corporations to close shop and build outside the US tax free essentially. We do that by reinstating a mild isolationist fence cutting and leaning, toward keeping out visa workers, re-establishing mild tariffs and eliminating corporate tax breaks for "backward Free Trade" for those corporations that leave our soil to manufacture goods that are sent back to the US and only build  larger corporate portfolios, That, also does nothing for our GDP or capitol infrastructure. Eventually we will start to see some of those jobs return to the US and will force a more common sense approach to competitiveness right here in the US. It's sad that US companies have felt no need to be as competitive even against foreign manufacturing right here in the US. If you ever get a chance, read up on Paul, he's amazingly gifted and I only hope he is heard.

It will be a while, but it also took a while to put us where we are, looking at the good ole days of nothing to look forward too for many of us. And that should never have happened.

God Bless

Nice dance there lstreat...thank you...but demoncrats controlled Congress from 1954 through 1996. That's all I need to know to demonstrate why we were allowed to have the social ills we do in this country. The welfare state was created by demoncrats.

Hell, even the Korean and Viet Nam wars were not even declared wars. Demoncrats had no balls and both of those "war actions" slithered away as embarrassing non-wins under demoncrats.

 

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GOOOOOD MOORRNNINNGG Big B. St-Lib, and others!

 

WOW, that tea must have been spiked or somethin. gotta zip and feelin fine, but turning it down a bit here, we see that we are still in defense of party control.  Big B. you are right and, well,  not so much. The Dems and Repubs had a fairly close divide for several of those terms. I don't want to get lost in fringe issues, but you keep losing track of Senate vs House majorities vs the oval office. Those years were a majority of Dems in the "Hot Seat" sure, but the congressional curve wobbled back and forth with one gaining then losingVeto over-ride. If they cannot over-ride or filibuster a bill to death, then they don't truly control the majority. But I think we are still talking about WAR?

If so, yup, you win that one. Official declaration control was the Dems within congressional allowances. Like St. Lib wrote, (paraphrasing)you still must look at the ideological metamorphosis from Left to Right due to socioeconomic upheaval in the usually Democratic southern region. As he/she put it, the newly enlisted conservative movement adopted the same waring rhetoric the otherwise neo-Libs were espousing. Up is now down, Left is now right. Blame it on the Butler, or The great Pumpkin, either way we were within a major shifting of the minds and neither side had the sense needed to tie a velcro shoe. So what do we do? Hope I guess, hope that this term will be a better mix perhaps and they/we can get something good out of Washington for once.

I don't qualify for heating assistance nor food stamps. Dagnabbed stingie government buzzards. Can't they see we're broke too? Guess I'll just have to burn all those election signs laying everywhere for heat.(just joshing)

God Bless.

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