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Tlou - Loved your reply and wanted a chance to answer your question of "How could I".

Some experts say that people become police officers and firefighters because they seek the power and status of the job. Others say that recruits join because they have a desire to help people, but over time they become cynical and corrupted. Both the police and firefighting cultures instill a sense of entitlement to power and authority over the rest of society.

Police training especially is designed to strip the individual's previous identity and "make" a police officer. The police uniform, badge, and gun are universal symbols of power and authority. When the individual puts on the uniform, he assumes the authority that goes with it. He commands and expects obedience and respect from the public.

Donning the uniform and wielding the power of the job contribute to what is known as the "police personality." Some officers leave the police personality on the job, while others carry it everywhere, all the time.

Good versus bad guys

The police personality serves to insulate officers from the rest of society. It fosters an "us versus them" mentality. The cops are the good guys and everyone else is a potential bad guy. There is a constant power struggle between the good and bad guys. Police believe that societal order depends on the good guys winning - at any cost.

When anyone challenges the police, the police defend their right to enforce control and authority. Officers must trust each other to provide assistance and back-up in their struggle to maintain control. They develop strong bonds of loyalty that ensure they will be there for each other. The Brotherhood must be reliable in life and death situations. Cops - and firefighters - stick together.

Code of Silence

When an officer is in trouble on the job or in trouble with his wife or girlfriend at home, he counts on his buddies to cover for him. He gives them a story that explains why he "had to do" whatever he did. They repeat his version of the story and they stick to that version. They put themselves on the line with their fellow officer. That's what the brotherhood is all about.

Simple rules

Whether testifying in court or smoothing things out at home, the rules are simple:

  1. Say as little as possible.
  2. Answer only the question asked.
  3. Don't give details.
  4. Deny all accusations.
  5. Say "I don't remember", "I didn't see that", or "I don't know."

Police Discretion

When a cop stops someone for a traffic violation or responds to a call about a disturbance, and that person flashes a police or firefighter ID, things usually relax. Responding officers and traffic cops have a great deal of leeway in choosing what laws to enforce, with whom to enforce them, and the manner in which they uphold the law. The symbol of the brotherhood entitles the offender to "professional courtesy." The responding officers usually apologize for the intrusion and any inconvenience, and it's understood that "nothing happened here."

Male Institution

Law enforcement and firefighting have always been male dominated professions. Women were first hired as non-sworn officers in the late 1800's as social workers to deal with problems concerning women and children. They had no police powers and could not wear the police uniform. Only a small percentage of women in either profession have risen to command level.

Discrimination

It is no secret that police departments have problems with racism, homophobia and sexism. While departments seek new recruits from the general population, official rosters rarely reflect the community's demographics. Police and fire departments are mostly white male institutions. Minorities and women still fight for admission into the club, few are at command level, and most report sexual harassment and discrimination.

Female and Minority Officers' Response

Crossing the Threshold: Female Officers and Police-perpetrated Domestic Violence examines male police officers' institutional power and the profession's historical treatment of women and minorities.

In addition, nearly every state now has associations for minority and female officers and firefighters. The International Association of Women Police, National Center for Women and Policing and Women in Federal Law Enforcement are national organizations that advocate for women in law enforcement. Similarly, Women in the Fire Service and Women Chief Fire Officers advocate for women in the fire services.

http://www.abuseofpower.info/Brotherhood.htm

 

 

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cops attitudes....chosen, this post is sooooo true, yet it all still exsists. take for example, corporal wegter assaulted his wife while in uniform and she "confirmed" this with a deputy, yet wegter is still a corporal. Howard Hughes was a black man and an honest cop, he's not a cop anymore. Police administrators are master manipulators like Prosecutors, they spend so much time twisting things to suit their purpose that's justice is a meaningless word to them. So you see, we have organizations for every need yet there it still is.
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Out of curiosity crkdcophatr, how many times have you:

1) Been arrested?

2) Had an arrest warrant served on you?

3) Spent more than a single night in jail, ie: remained held after your initial appearnace before the judge?

I normally wouldn't ask such personal things, so forgive me if I seem nosy...However given your screen name and your attitude towards cops (or at least the idea of them), it seems to me that you want everyone to know all about your "business dealings" with law enforcement.  So I guess I don't feel too bad asking...

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Howard... Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time...

Howard was/is great peeps.....He treated you with respect.......

Just as long as you treated him with the same....

Reminds me of the kids these days, don't wanna mow lawns, scoop snow.... I delivered papers for 7 years for the QCT, for Criminy....

If you're listening, Howard, remember when you caught me w/ those bottle rockets behind the Red Paint Store??

 Those days are gone...

 :-)

Jr

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