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20 or 30 high priced engineers? LMAO.

What's so funny about 20 or 30 high priced engineers?   Would 25 or 35 make it more funny?   How low would I have to go for you to take it seriously?   Would low priced engineers be funnier?

I'll help you figure it out. They'd have little profit if they did that through their design-build division.

Please tell me what "that" refers to.

Besides, dorky, Muscatine is headquarters.

And what does Muscatine being headquarters have to do with it?

Also, I'd bet Stanley's is not doing a whole lot in Kabul, dear.

I'd take the bet and win but have no way of proving it to you.

They hire plenty of foreign engineers for work in other countries; but not 20 or 30 in Musc  for these projects.

Pure speculation without a shred of evidence.   Not even logical.   You have no idea of how large their projects might be or what staffing they might require.

Why else would they keep the overhead of keeping offices elsewhere like they do?

Because for many jobs it's a benefit to have a local office.   You can understand that a client would like to have somebody on site to talk to can't you?     Also for some projects they are required to have a local presence same as a lot of other businesses.

They are not in the business of "supporting" people in other countries. They are in the construction business to make a profit.

Consulting/design business.   Construction is a small factor.

Big capitalists, just like you liberals hate! That should be obvious to anyone!

 Again, hate.

 

 

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I'm withdrawing the bet.    I don't want to get into the arguments about where the city limits of Kabul are.    Or is the airport included?    If the client is in Kabul but the construction is outside the city, does that count.

?    Or vice versa?    And what is the time frame?    Is the design or construction have to be taking place as we speak or is the past year or six months or the next few months OK?

Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused.

Where do I begin? The consulting/design business is for the CONSTRUCTION industry, brainiac. When you biuld something, it is construction. If by chance Stanley hires an engineer to do something at the headquarters in Muscatine; you CAN bet they likely are NOT FROM Muscatine. Get it? Muscatine is not producing civil engineers at the rate you suggest they are hiring in Muscatine! So Muscatine residents are not getting those jobs.

 

Shred of evidence? And where is yours? I work in their industry. Speculation? Their headquarters building is not big enough to add 20-30 engineers per project. Do YOU know how much room and support staff would be needed for 20-30 civil engineers PER PROJECT? Pure speculation and not even logical!

 

"That" refers to the insane assertion by you that Stanley would hire 20-30 civil engineers (AND support staff)  for a project. That would kill their profit. But since you liberals think creating bigger government is ok, I can see where your illusion takes you to 20-30 engineers on a project.

 

Hate...yes...that's what you liberals feel for the evil world-renowned capitalists known as Stanleys.

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Where do I begin?

Where to begin?

The consulting/design business is for the CONSTRUCTION industry, brainiac.

The consulting business consults on more than construction.   They do rate studies, feasibility studies, safety studies, power grid protections schemes, flood assessments much more.

 When you biuld something, it is construction. If by chance Stanley hires an engineer to do something at the headquarters in Muscatine; you CAN bet they likely are NOT FROM Muscatine.

Who cares where they come from, the jobs are being created in Muscatine which is what we're discussing.

Get it?

Get it?

 Muscatine is not producing civil engineers at the rate you suggest they are hiring in Muscatine!

I never said Muscatine was producing any civil engineers at any rate and they're of course not producing any.   I didn't limit myself to civil engineers but included all engineers and support people.

So Muscatine residents are not getting those jobs.

When they take the job, most of them will be Muscatine residents although some choose to live elsewhere and commute.   One big reason is the stench.  When you import engineers, you will eventually need non-professional support people and they will likely be Muscatine residents. 

Shred of evidence? And where is yours?

I didn't make the asinine assertion, you did.

I work in their industry.

If you truly work in the industry you don't pay a lot of attention to how it works or any other industry for that matter.

knowledgeSpeculation? Their headquarters building is not big enough to add 20-30 engineers per project.

There are plenty of empty buildings down town.

Do YOU know how much room and support staff would be needed for 20-30 civil engineers PER PROJECT?

Why do I have to know?   It's easily determined.

Pure speculation and not even logical!

Logical?   The numbers will depend on the size of the project. 

"That" refers to the insane assertion by you that Stanley would hire 20-30 civil engineers (AND support staff)  for a project.

They would if the project was big enough  What's the maximum, you think it takes?   Can't you envision a project that would be big enough to need 20 or 30?   How many civil, structural, electrical, mechanical, instrumentation, chemical engineers and architects, drafters, secretaries, file clerks etc. did it take to design the last MPW power unit?   I don't know either but I don't think 20 or 30 is out of line.

That would kill their profit.

Have you heard of adjusting your staff to the level required to do the job and make a profit?

Have you heard of setting your fee high enough to make a profit?

Have you heard of not taking the job if the fee can't be high enough to return a profit?

But since you liberals think creating bigger government is ok, I can see where your illusion takes you to 20-30 engineers on a project.

There's no illusion here.   It all depends on the size of the job. 

Hate...yes...that's what you liberals feel for the evil world-renowned capitalists known as Stanleys.

You're again spouting the ravings of a L'imbaughcile.   I know of no liberals who ever hated Max Stanley (or Richard either).   He was revered by many.  He was actually much more like one of us than one of you.   He donated the art gallery.   His Stanley Foundation is hardly a conservative organization.

 

If this doesn't settle you down, I'm out of here.

 

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