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"For those keeping track, that's eight bombings just today."

Car bombings and roadside bombings are hardly suicide bombings, haysus. There was that, as the point you like to keep avoiding!


I'm sure the dead care. A bomb by any other name, is really just a bomb.

 

 

You too, still have trouble staying on subject, davieboy. And, you are the first to complain when someone else doesn't. Cool!

2nd face, 2nd time in a week.

Now you're calling me a liar. I don't take to kindly to that.

If you don't like it, you need to back up your claims. Surely, if a broadcast newscaster committed such an egregiously partisan act then there must be documentation of it somewhere. I'm sure Fox News would have reported on it. Produce some evidence and I'll be a believer. Otherwise, you're just employing the "because I said so" method of debate. You wouldn't believe me if I used the same method so it's ridiculous of you to expect me to believe you.

I did NOT say he won't vote for a bill with a pork. I said he didn't vote for the military appropriations bills because of withdrawal language, pork and piece meal amnesties for illegal aliens.

You said "And of course the Republicans add their share of pork to bills but John McCain fights against those bills until the pork is removed." I'm saying that he's voted for a large number of bills that have contained earmarks. Like every other politician he's chooses which pork projects to fight against and which ones he's going to ignore. It's called playing politics and no politician is immune from doing it. If Senator McCain really was the pork fighter he claimed to be, he'd vote in favor of very few bills as they almost always contain some sort of pork or extra riders. 

If you think that it is bad in Iraq because we had three car bombings take place in the last month I suggest you take a look at how many were occurring a couple years ago before the surge.

There's been plenty more than just three bombings in the last month. In fact, here's a few news articles for you from just the past few days:

Violence surges in Iraq...

Bomb blast halts oil production

Bomb kills 8 Kurdish soldiers

Strip of Iraq on verge of exploding

Sunni leader killed

Bomb kills 4 @ checkpoint

15 killed in attacks

Violence is violence and death is death no matter what form it comes in. Again, your argument amounts to "It doesn't suck as bad as it used to." But sucks is sucks and it still sucks in Iraq.

And how many times has America been attacked since we started fighting that war? That's right, a big fat 0, zero, notta, zilch, none.

Have you read the news today? The US Embassy in Yemen was attacked. And I do believe that we've been attacked a number of times in places like Iraq and Afghanistan since 9/11. (I would also point out that if you're going to argue that you were referring to attacks on our soil, that we weren't attacked on our soil after the WTC bombing in 1994 until 2001 after Clinton had left office. We'll have to wait and see what happens after Bush leaves office.)

Since 9/11 62,000 Americans have been killed in the continental US by illegal aliens. Only a little more than 3,000 Americans have lost their lives in Iraq.

A few points...

1) Thus far there have been 4159 confirmed deaths in Iraq with seven more pending confirmation. (You may want to update that anti-immigrant junk email before you hit the forward button.)

2) Even the wacky worldnetdaily contradicts those numbers of 62,000. According to the worldnetdaily website, 21,900 Americans had been killed by illegal aliens since Sept 11, 2001. This data was reported on November 28, 2006. That averages out to 12 per day. Using that math, that brings us to 30,660 in the seven years since 2001. Less than half the number you're stating. Not great numbers to be certain, but not nearly as bad as what you're stating. By comparison, there were 79,196 deaths in the United States caused by alcohol related crashes from 2002 through 2006. When averaged and multiplied over the time since Sept. 11, 2001 that comes out to more than 110, 800.

Now you may be asking yourself what does this have to do with anything. Which leads me to number three...

3) What does this have to do with anything that we've been talking about? If you want to argue about our immigration policy we can but I would remind you that it was John McCain who teamed with Ted Kennedy for the failed McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill that was pilloried by conservatives as amounting to amnesty for illegal immigrants. It was this same bill that John McCain later said that he would not have voted for.

Now that, my friend, is pathetic.

 

One more thing for bigbrother:

 

"For those keeping track, that's eight bombings just today."

Car bombings and roadside bombings are hardly suicide bombings, haysus. There was that, as the point you like to keep avoiding!

 

I seriously doubt that the dead and their families give a rat's a$$ about whether or not they were killed by a roadside bomb, a car bomb, or a suicide bomber. Bombs are bombs and dead is dead.

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FOX News reports on the NBC bias on a very consistent basis but they don't always make reference to a certain remark or news cast. The last 2 nights have been as bias as I've ever seen a news cast be. Two nights ago it was a McCain slam fest spinning it to make people believe that B. Hussein is right on the economy and McCain is wrong. Last night it was a Sarah Palin slam fest through the entire political segment. But what this boils down to is I don't give a rodents rectum whether you believe me or not. Liberals never believe anything that doesn't fit their agenda anyway. It's like trying to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of my time and it annoys the pig.

I'm sure McCain has voted for pork as all politicians do but he also fights against it. Something I haven't seen B. Hussein do yet. He won't even speak out against the corrupt Chicago political machine that groomed and raised him to where he is today. And this brings up another twisted truth that B. Hussein is now using. He claims McCain has voted with Bush 91% of the time and that is probably true but, he fails to tell the "rest of the story" in that as much as 90% of those bills are nothing more than "feel good" bills. Bills that make a certain day of the year National walk in the park day or some stupid thing like that. These types of bills are usually passed with a unanimous vote. That being said we can now determine that B. Hussein has also voted with Bush a very high percentage of the time. That is unless he just voted "present" like he has so many times.

Now I'll tell you that those figures did NOT come from any email and they are more accurate then you are trying to portray. Once again you use left wing spin to play down the figures. Those numbers came from Rep. Steve King not from some email. To use your own reasoning though, what difference does it make if that number is 30,000 or 60,000? "But sucks is sucks and it still sucks" that illegal aliens are killing American citizens and our government refuses to do anything about it and our media refuses to even report it. And because I want illegal immigration stopped and all the illegals here now booted out does NOT make me or anybody else "anti-immigrant" and you know it. That is nothing more than loony liberal spin to smear true patriotic Americans. We are not racist, we are not bigots and we are not anti-immigrant and to say we are is an outright lie. If that were the case then you would be calling members of "You Don't Speak For Me" racist against their own race. You do realize that when you call people who oppose illegal immigration names like that you are referencing upwards of 80% of the citizens of this country don't you?And it is still safer for an American in Iraq today then it is right here in the US and the figures prove that.

And I already know all about John McCain and his teaming up with Ted Kennedy for the "Shamnesty Bill" that I helped defeat last June. But I believe he learned a valuable lesson about the power of the people in this country from that incident.   

To use your own words again: "I seriously doubt that the dead and their families give a rat's a$$ about whether or not they were killed by an illegal Hispanic, an illegal Russian or an illegal Canadian. Illegal is illegal and dead is dead."

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