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Truth hurts..............Obama.

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QUOTE: "And don't tell me Obama's better than Bush either." -by LawDog

You can't be serious.......................

I am, but before you tar and feather me, do keep in mind the context in which that was written.  Cool

The point was, Obama is just a guess at this point.  He's not president, he's never been president, and as far as political experience goes, he pretty much has none (and he only shows up to vote half the time; must be nice!).  Therefore, one cannot adequately compare Bush and Obama.  Voting for Obama is nothing more than a gamble based on political promises.  Them's just facts.

And chosen, you'll be happy to know that I'm not a Bush supporter.  I haven't voted for him a single time.  Tongue out

A@*hole? Who's jumping to the insults now?

I agree, wholeheartedly with your comments concerning low information voters. While a lot of the blame rests with the voters themselves, I place a good portion of the blame on our media and their inane narratives about what's supposed to be important. Unfortunately, it's the low information voter that tends to get sucked into the media spin cycle and they think they're informed because they heard somebody in a suit on television say something.

However, I'm a little confused with some of your reasoning, oh wise dog of law. You claim that "Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil." While I agree with the sentiment of that statement, it appears as though you're saying that we should only vote for a perfect candidate. Like people, no candidate is perfect and if you're waiting around for one who is, you're always going to be disappointed. I prefer to look at it as voting for the better candidate amongst the choices I'm given and then doing the same in the next cycle. Hopefully each one of them will be better than the last. We're not going to fix our problems in a single election. Small steps, lawdog. Small steps.

And then you say: "...Obama is just a guess at this point.  He's not president, he's never been president, and as far as political experience goes, he pretty much has none..." Aren't they all just a guess at some point in time, lawdog? Abraham Lincoln was a guess, no? Thomas Jefferson was also just a guess, right? If we were to take presidential experience into consideration when voting we'd only really have two choices - Carter and H. W. Bush. Yes, it's a gamble. It always is when there isn't an incumbent running. So to say that "Voting for Obama is nothing more than a gamble based on political promises..." I guess I'd have to respond by saying "Uh... duh." That's kind of the way we've done things for the last two-plus centuries. But keep in mind, this country was a gamble as was our constitution. Sometimes they pay off and sometimes they don't.

So all this leaves me with a question for you, lawdog. Which perfect candidate are you gambling on for president this year?

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"Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.





Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.





You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.





You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.





You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.





You and I don't control monetary policy, The Federal Reserve Bank does.





One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices - 545 human beings out of the 300 million - are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.





I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress.





In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered but private central bank.





I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority.





They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton-picking thing.





I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.





Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.





What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall.





No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.





The president can only propose a budget.





He cannot force the Congress to accept it.





The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes.





Who is the speaker of the House?

She is the leader of the majority party.





She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want.





If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.





It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts - of incompetence and irresponsibility.





I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.





When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.





If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.





If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.





If the Marines are in IRAQ, it's because they want them in IRAQ.





If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.





There are no insoluble government problems.





Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.





Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.





Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.





They, and they alone, have the power.





They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.





We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!....but will that ever happen??

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