Muscatine

this here is the point I am making here, this part below the #s in red!

nice, once again I am insulted and yet no type of debate. here is wiki definition of debate. no where did it say the use of name calling or insults to be a wildly used debate practice. I have read your post and see that most debates turn into name calling and insults. I wonder why, because it is easier than doing research, I think so. is it cause it gives you some twisted sense of power over the other person, maybe! all I know is we all watch as these government officials and corporate heads steal,lie and cheat. just like the ceos of Enron and world com(which all the evidence was in wtc#7) they keep getting away with it and no one seems to care.  ww2 and the pearl harbor attack where Roosevelt knew 12 hours before the attack or the tonkin in Vietnam. government officials and big corporate heads like war because of the money that is made!

   the big banks, the federal reserve, china, government officials and big corporate heads are raking in the cash off the backs of hardworking Americans. congressmen and senators have never received as many calls, emails and letter as they did over the bailout. yet they went against what the people wanted and no one cares. they vote against the constitution, take money from corporations, vote against what the people want,infringe upon our rights and pass bills that hurt America, yet no one cares.

  just once I wish someone would actually debate. just once I wish there could be a debate without the insults and name calling. is there anyone who knows what the meaning of debate is. here I will state my case one more time just maybe there is someone that will debate. I'll start with the top 40.

#2 norad, norad had never missed intercepting an airplane that had flown off course, yet they missed 4 that day.

#3 explain how a first time pilot performed a very difficult maneuver as flying just feet off the ground at commercial jet speed.

#4 why did government officials claim they had no ideal the terrorist would fly planes into buildings, when on the very day they were doing train exercises of the very thing.

#7 fire cause the collapse of three buildings. the only three buildings to ever collapse because of fire. how did open flames affect 4 in steel in 36" x 16" dimensions. there is footage of a skyscraper burning totally engulfed for over 12 hours and never came down.

#8 just explain this one.

#9 ringleaders under the watch of multiple agencies both domestic and foreign yet they were not stopped. what do we pay the people for.

#10 just explain this one!

#11 money was made by investors and by the building owner who had just insured the complex . he was paid double because each plane was considered a separate attack. both the wtc 1 and 2 were slated to have asbestos  removal at a cost of over a billion dollars.

#13 fact bin laden did need dialysis, al-Qaeda and bin laden was trained,funded and supplied by the CIA to fight the Russians. so was saddam during the Iran - Iraq war.

#14 explain this one please!!!

#16 just explain why they did not investigate the scene. ever see what the FFA does after a plane crash. they rebuild the plane with all the pieces they can find. hmmmm

#18 why would bush and cheney fight against an independent investigation. why!

#19goes with #4

#20 why would they (the commission) not want to investigate the money trail. I would think it would be pertinent info in find who funded the attacks. would you not want to know who is supplying the cash!

#21 what the heck. just explain this one please!

#22 why would they keep Key suspects from the investigation why!

#23 WHY, C'mon!

#24 goes with # 7 and once again a morn would know not to destroy key evidence like the steel structure!

#26 does this make any sense at all. this is just nuts.

#28 proves the media is owned by the same corrupt corporate heads.

#34 this is just plain criminal and people should go to jail. how do you misplace 2.3 trillion dollars and no one is accountable! thieves and crooks.

here this is where I will give someone, anyone a chance to respond.I have not even got to the other 100 something points. I doubt that anyone will give a good debate as it is easier to insult and name call. please just someone show me that there is one person that knows what it means to debate!

 I am not one of "the old Neighbors" but  please let me assure you that he THINKS that he is for real - but he is in the running for the most UNREAL. Mobay, Rosie and Michael Moore are all kissin cousins - not a pretty sight - huh?

wow where is the youtube. this is my point, everyone assumes the news is almighty truth and only people on the net fake videos. wow corporations don't have anything to hide and neither does the bushes, clintons or other corrupt politicians. is the news companies owned by big corporations and it would be a stretch to believe they might control what we get to see!  whats a matter you don't understand what the word debate means, here maybe this will help.

de·bate  (d-bt) v. de·bat·ed, de·bat·ing, de·bates v.intr. 1. To consider something; deliberate. 2. To engage in argument by discussing opposing points. 3. To engage in a formal discussion or argument. See Synonyms at discuss. 4. Obsolete To fight or quarrel. v.tr. 1. To deliberate on; consider. 2. To dispute or argue about. 3. To discuss or argue (a question, for example) formally. 4. Obsolete To fight or argue for or over. n. 1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument. 2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate. 3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition. 4. Obsolete Conflict; strife.

I have to ask does anyone care about what happens to America. does anyone care if these criminals are destroying this great country. you can not seriously believe that these people are doing the best job they can. what with jobs going over seas, economy in terrible shape, the infringements on our rights, corporations bilking Americans, two war fronts, foreclosures in the millions, unemployment raising fast, national ID and so on and so on. seriously do you truly believe the two candidates give two shakes about you! will the ceos of Frannie Mae, Freddie mac, aig, bear stearns, etc. get punished for what they have done. ruin our economy and walk away with millions while we tax payers get stuck cleaning up their mess. do you even care about the constitution or is it just a damn piece of paper. seriously! hey when you are on the verge of bankruptcy you don't keep spending money! duh. how about the obama bill, the world poverty act, 845 billion dollars to go to the U.N. don't worry we can afford it!do the math 11 trillion debt to be paid by 200 million people.whats that about 55,ooo.oo each. also the eventual banning of small arms is also part of the world poverty bill. so what, people like Richard Syron, David Moffett,Daniel Mudd, James Johnson, Franklin Raines ( both advisors to obama), Maurice "Hank" Greenberg, Landon Thomas Jr, James Cayne, Richard S. Fuld, Jr and this does not include other top brass at these companies. do the work, google these guys and see how much these crooks walked away with. seriously what will it take. the total destruction of our great country before we stand up to these criminals. check and see how many congressmen and senators either got money from or invested in these companies that have been bailed out(including goldman sachs which paulson was CEO). also what happens when the state owns all the banks is that not socializism. is it a good ideal that china buy up the bad loans and why do we borrow from a communist country anyway. check out that bailout bill, it gives a whole lot of power to paulson without any other agency to check on him or any kind of reveiw by a court of law, just like the federal reserve! has anyone here even looked at the bailout bill, and if not do you care what is in it.

(Some have suggested Paulson's plan may potentially have some conflicts of interest, since Paulson is the former CEO of Goldman Sachs, a firm that may benefit from the plan.^[27] Paulson has no direct financial interest in Goldman, however, since he sold his entire stake in the firm prior to becoming Treasury Secretary, pursuant to ethics law.^[28] The proposed bill would give the United States Treasury Secretary unprecedented powers over the economic and financial life of the U.S.. Section 8 of Paulson's plan states: "Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency."^[29])

I wonder why no one ever uses information on this board. name calling is like 4th grade recess behavior. this is my argument so what is your response.

Mob, in order to debate someone has to offer up a topic worthy of such a debate, what you offer in this post is complete stupidity.  Which simply goes along with your other "topics" you post but this one far outweighs the others in the stupid department.  If your that ignorant that you accept this load of crap someone has fed you enjoy your lunch.  It is obvious you have a very limited grip on reality so I'm sure you will only move on to the next ignorant load someone sends your way when you tire of this one.  To help you move on I'll make this my last post to you on this subject and go back to simply ignoring your idiocy.

Well, as I've said in a previous post that bigbrother told me that I didn't see, I was watch CNN News that morning and, had just turned it on (before the incident), and watch BOTH planes hit the WTC within a short period of time of each other).  Bigbrother informed me that there was NO footage of the 1st plane, but, since I saw it live on TV, will continually beg to differ!  I WILL say, that, I don't remember CNN shooting it from THAT angle!  As I remember it, the buildings were to the right of the picture, NOT in the center!  But, that's been a few years ago now, and, I know that memory can slip with time/age, but, that's how I remember it!  Tom.

YOU explain something, mob. Why do you think a giant airliner loaded with fuel, slamming into a building at several hundred MPH SHOULD NOT bring down that building? Like logic suggests, you are best ignored.